Thursday, January 28, 2016

8:18

Salaam all,

8:18
ذَلِكُمْ وَأَنَّ اللّهَ مُوهِنُ كَيْدِ الْكَافِرِينَ
Thalikum waanna Allaha moohinu kaydi alkafireena

The Aya says:
That for you (plural) that Allah is humiliating/ degrading the schemeing of the rejecters.
My personal note:
I do believe that it explains itself in a sense and that Allah always does His planning to defeat the plans and damage of the rejecters.

Translation of the transliterated words:

Thalikum: that to you (plural)
Waanna: and
Allaha: Allah
Moohinu: humiliating/ degrading
Note: the root is H-W-N and it means easy and supple and of low weight. Conceptually, it is used for any matter that does not weigh heavily on others. This can be positive as in making something easy. It can be negative as when a person or group of people become with no weight, as in becoming humiliated or degraded. MOOHINU means: making low and humble and degrading.
Kaydi: planning of/ scheming of
Note: the root is K-Y-D and it means to plan and start doing something, but not clear if it was done or not/ to nearly do something. For the noun it means scheme. KAYDA means planning of or scheming of

Alkafireena: the rejectors
Note: ALKAFIREEN is derived from the root K-F-R and it means cover or bury in the ground, as in put the seed in the ground and cover it. This is then used conceptually for many purposes as in discarding and rejecting as well as burying. ALKAFIREENA are the ones who reject the truth or discard it.

Salaam all and have a great day.

Hussein

7 comments:

Unknown said...

salaam3laykum akhee, please accept my apologies for posting stuff which is not relevant to this blog post

i have a question about ayah 4:166

Sahih International: But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness.


does bee3ilmihee clearly indicate the what Allah ANZAla = his knowledge?
so is the quran the knowledge of Allah explicitly in this ayah?


hussein said...

Wa Alaikum Assalaam,

Bi AAilmihi means by His knowledge as in by His knowing that it was sent down and it also can mean it came down in close association with Allah's knowledge. in either case, The Qur'an represents certainly part of the knowledge of Allah that He wanted to share with His servants but the Qur'an is not all Allah's knowledge.

I hope this helps and take care brother

Hussein

mrrobster Multra said...

do you think there is parallel emphasis in the ayah?

if the Quran is part of Allahs knowledge then it is from His knowledge which means His knowledge is contained within ALL of it(i don't mean Allahs mind has incarnated).

so the Quran cannot be anything other than Allahs knowledge , right?

hussein said...

I would hesitate to say that His knowledge is contained in the Qur'an but I would say that Part of His knowledge is contained in the Qur'an. The reason for my hesitation is that if I say His knowledge then I worry that I am excluding any other knowledge for Allah outside of the Qur'an and that certainly would be incorrect because Allah's knowledge is much wider and more vast. Also because linguistically the sentence does not support that kind of understanding.

hussein

mrrobster Multra said...

thank you very much respected brother hussain. i wish you would contribute to the forums akhee, your posts are being missed.

mrrobster Multra said...

bro, this is theological questions and i hope you don't mind discussing them. if you do, then i will not ask inshallah.

the quran is recitation

the quran is part of Allahs knowledge

the quran is not spoken into existence

we are known to Allah before we are created

God knowing about us does not mean that it can be conflated with recitation called Quran, right?

one of the missionaries wrote:

per your logic this means that THE ENTIRE CREATION is the same as God's knowledge, so that creation = the knowledge of God.


if the quran is an eternal attribute which is part of Gods knowledge, then it is unlike something known by God and then spoken into existence, right?

Adam is already known and then later on Adam is created


the missionaries don't seem to be distinguishing between unphyiscal recitation and physical human which was created in time.

hussein said...

Wa Alaikum Assalam,

This is certainly one reason that I do not visit forums and discuss things till no end.

The Qur'an is spoken by God. It is not the same as an entity that comes into existance when Allah says be and it is.

However the Qur'an as the speech of Allah is spoken to his creation and it is spoken in a point in time. So, if I am to say that the Qur'an is eternal I have to clarify that the knowledge within it have been there since eternity, but it was only expressed/spoken/recited when Allah wanted to speak it to His creation.

It is also not the same as a creation because the words never left Allah they were just expressed and carried by means that carry them to us and then either internalized in us or not internalized in us. So, the words never stand alone to be called creation. They are either with Allah, in us or carried by means of communication. While creation such Adam and Jesus and so on stand alone not internalized anywhere and not carried by means that carry them

Hussein